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Simon Smith
05-11-2008, 11:28 PM
According to what I have picked up:
A large number of Whites voted for Obama.
97 % of Blacks voted for him.
More women voted for him than men.
Based on the red/blue map shown of the States that went McCain/Obama, it seemed to me , with the exception of Florida that most of the "Confederate" States were NOT for Obama but the Northern States were.
We have no reason to believe there was any systematic cheating. Not withstanding that most forum members will realise that political leaders are just puppets, the susceptibility of White American voters to go for a representative of a racial group that WOULD UNANIMOUSLY NOT VOTE FOR A WHITE CANDIDATE, illustrates the brainwashing of a whole civilisation.
Fleur White
05-11-2008, 11:49 PM
"More women voted for him than men." Nationalism needs women, especially in this country, to break down the image barrier at the very least.
What does it say of how highly women are regarded in the USA, if a minority is elected before a woman president? Women in yank land only got the vote 25 long years after black men. They were already in pole position in politics long before American women even got a sniff of the ballot box!
prometheus unbound
05-11-2008, 11:50 PM
Then you look at McCain ! :eek:
Talk about a two horse race - they both look ready for the knackers yard.
Tactics
06-11-2008, 12:09 AM
Agreed F.W. politically mobilising our women would be a positive move, it was knocked for six with the Sadie Graham business but can be rebuilt.
Tactics
06-11-2008, 12:11 AM
S.F. seems to have been effected by the Obama win.
I know not in which way though.
ceonwulf
06-11-2008, 07:06 AM
McCAIN THREW THE ELECTION - OBAMA-FIX WAS IN ALL YEAR
Wed Nov 5, 2008 11:12
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Here's my article written this morning for:
http://www.rayelan.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=8592
McCain Lost Race Deliberately - The Obama-Fix Was In All Year
Posted By: sunsetsunrise
Date: Wednesday, 5 November 2008, 8:23 a.m.
Senator McCain has been a 'player' going back to his lying performance as a Viet Nam War hero, where he was never tortured, but treated like a prince for cooperating with his captors.
I just watched a 90-minute video yesterday, by the way, where Edwin H. Crosby III, a true Viet Nam hero and veteran, explains how veterans benefit claims have been stolen by the U.S. government to the tune of $70 Billion dollars, through a scam those in the know can identify as "DD214-SPN", while the soldiers themselves have been purposefully blacklisted from jobs, loans, and "the American Dream", in order to sideline and disempower them. The same thing is going to happen to veterans coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan, aside from their contamination from Depleted Uranium - they will spend years waiting for payments that somehow get delayed. Their original documents will be shredded by the Veterans Administration 'by mistake', but really in order to prevent the revelation that all that money has been paid out to bogus names, to finance yet more covert operations.
McCain has known about this for 25 years.
McCain, then in the Navy, before he ran for Congress, was one of three men in a room with Mr. Crosby in Washington. McCain was there because his future role was already chosen for him, people. The other man was his old friend Joe Biden. This was in 1983. They personally heard Mr. Crosby's story and took documentation from him. Mr. Crosby never heard from them again. But Crosby, with very limited funds for lawyers (and in a society where lawyers don't want to get involved fighting the government even if you do have the money) -- well, Crosby is still trying to go through the courts to break this fraud wide open, and he's been doing it for 30 years now. He just isn't a quitter. Now he has proof that the government crime against the veterans fits the legal definition of genocide. Genocide. Genocide.
Is it just greed for ripping off money? Or is it more than that? Does it fit in somewhere with how government, and chemtrail pilots, and flouridated-water pushers, and big pharma, and irradiated-food packagers, and wifi music & cellphones, and judges-who-belong-in-jail, and genetically-modified everything - how they are all 'killing us softly with their song'?
McCain and Biden both know where all the bodies are buried. They have both been keeping their mouths shut to play the game for decades. They both know 9-11 was an inside job. They both know a government conspiracy killed: John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, John Kennedy, Jr., etc.
This election was a phony. McCain never attacked Obama with the one story that would have destroyed him. McCain never attacked Obama using the testimony of Larry Sinclair. Who is Larry Sinclair? Sinclair is just about one of the only honest men in America today who knows the Constitution. Those of you who have heard about him may remember the smears, but I have followed the Sinclair story since it surfaced in January, I have heard him on the radio, and I have been privileged to receive personal emails from him. I heard him tell how he was set up to be arrested in Washington, D.C. at the National Press Club, and then transported illegally on a trumped-up charge to New Jersey, where Joe Biden's son is Attorney-General.
Sinclair is a gay man who was in Chicago ten years ago looking for fun in a limo. His driver introduced him to Illinois State Senator Barack Obama, although Sinclair didn't know the tall, black, crack-using homosexual to whom he gave a blowjob that night, and the next day in a hotel, was a member of the Legislature.
Obama was the former lover of a man who was murdered in Chicago in December 2007 named Donald Young - the former choir director at Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church. Young had phoned Sinclair personally a few times, shortly before his death; that is how Sinclair knows that Young was Obama's Chicago loverboy, and a very hurting young man.
McCain and his handlers deliberately never told the American people about Larry Sinclair. It was easier to use Joe The Plumber as an outraged taxpayer. But the American people voted yesterday en masse to try and stop legalized gay marriages. How would they have reacted if they had been told the truth about their Bisexual Messiah?
The Bible has a line somewhere about the Antichrist not being a lover of women, remember? I just throw that in for what it may or may not be worth.
McCain knew that Obama rejected using Federal election funds, and that acceptance by all Presidential candidates is 'supposed' to be a safeguard against corruption in fundraising. Somehow Obama ended up with four times the war chest for his campaign that McCain had.
McCain never talked about Obama's campaign money, or where it was coming from, and why Obama broke his prior promises about fundraising. There is also brewing a scandal about using weird credit cards for this fundraising. They are not just not traceable, they are purposefully given to certain people to begin with.
McCain played the game in this election, letting the media give Obama every break and more.
Obama was either born outside of the United States, or was adopted and taken to Indonesia where he lost whatever American citizenship he had, and was never naturalized to return stateside to attend university. McCain never stood up to demand Obama's birth certificate. McCain stood up to the Los Angeles Times, instead, wanting to see the video of Obama toasting a Palestinian colleague at the University of Chicago.
Compare the seriousness of loose remarks at a dinner, with the seriousness of Obama not being eligible to be the President and the seriousness of the Constitutional crisis which will unfold as the lawsuit of Philip Berg in the Supreme Court, as well as other ongoing lawsuits, progress. By law, everything Obama does as President, if he is ever inaugurated, will be null and void.
McCain has been a traitor to America all his life. That is the lesson of this election. There are a few hundred other traitors in Congress, including those who voted for the Fraud Bailout Bill.
We don't know why the Kingmakers gave Obama the Presidency. But if you think this wasn't a fixed race from the beginning, you need to take Rayelan Allen and her website and newsletter over the past 20 years seriously, rather than just using this incredible resource as an intellectual playground.
That is playing the game, too.
ADDENDUM:
ALEX JONES SAID ON-AIR TODAY (NOVEMBER 5) THAT OBAMA WON BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONE
THE FASCISTS WANTED TO WIN. YES - IT WAS ALL A SET UP. THIS WAS ALL PSYCHO-MANIPULATION BY EXPERTS.
WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?
Next time, don't vote. I didn't. Wow, listen to the media applaud the large number of people who went to the polls, to participate in "democracy". There is no "democracy" in the United States of America. And by the way, don't give anymore of your money to so-called 'saviors' - even if their name is Ron Paul. Do you really think Ron Paul survived in the rotten U.S. Congress for decades by being PURE?HuhHuh He is playing his part in the game also.
Stop buying cigarettes and alcohol and poisoned food, and start living like a people who are preparing for a long time of exile in the wilderness. Get yourself used to eating one meal a day. Sardines out of a can. Buy gold coins, even one at a time. Buy storage foods. Buy what you will need for self-defense. But don't forget to help someone else you see living out of their car, or under a bridge.
When 20 million people or more in 2010... REFUSE TO VOTE, REFUSE TO ATTEND RALLIES, AND TELL CORPORATE AMERICA, THE POLICE, THE 'NEWS OUTLETS', THEIR NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOURS AND THEIR CHILDREN...
... THAT THEY ARE GOING TO TURN OFF THOSE HIGH-TECH BRAINWASHING MACHINES CALLED HD-TELEVISIONS - FOR EVER -- it will be possible THEN AND ONLY THEN to take this country back.
We'll discover we all have some backbone after all. We will rediscover human decency, to ourselves and to each other.
THE FASCISTS ONLY CONTROL IF THEY HAVE WILLING SLAVES TO WORK FOR THEM, IF THEY HAVE GUARDS WHO WILL TORTURE OTHERS, IF THEY HAVE SHARPSHOOTERS READY TO SHOOT PEOPLE ESCAPING FROM THE CAMPS.
Help others to learn to say 'no'.
Refuse to lie. Refuse to be lied to.
Tartarus
06-11-2008, 10:05 AM
I'm not going to buy into any conspiracy regarding this campaign, and his election to the Whitehouse.
This was a slick operation, read more and observe how it was done-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7712479.stm
From beginning to end this election played out like a movie to pull on the emotional heart strings of what is widely seen as historical social injustice. The future did not win this election, the past did, and we have to learn from that. Obama crosses all religious and racial barriers making him unique in the history of western politics, and we can bitch about him being black, dumb, gay, or given a free ride by the Zionists, but at the end of the day only one important question remains, and that is...
How do we stop it happening here?
Tartarus
06-11-2008, 10:20 AM
May I just add, that one of the reasons we need to get rid of Griffin, is because he has made Islam the sole enemy of new BNP members.
If you look at this census from 2000 in America, you can see what their enemy is, IMMIGRATION, but in a country founded on immigration, what can they do?
http://www.cis.org/articles/2003/back1203.html#table1
Simon Smith
06-11-2008, 03:23 PM
"Sinclair is a gay man who was in Chicago ten years ago looking for fun in a limo. His driver introduced him to Illinois State Senator Barack Obama, although Sinclair didn't know the tall, black, crack-using homosexual to whom he gave a blowjob that night, and the next day in a hotel, was a member of the Legislature.
Obama was the former lover of a man who was murdered in Chicago in December 2007 named Donald Young - the former choir director at Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church. Young had phoned Sinclair personally a few times, shortly before his death; that is how Sinclair knows that Young was Obama's Chicago loverboy, and a very hurting young man."
Interesting article Kev. If true, we once again have the similiar strings that a politician can be moved by. HOW OFTEN DO WE SEE THIS !!!!!
Clinton was apparently into cocaine and of course his sexploits with Monica L only became public when his policy in the Middleeast was not to the liking of those God has forbidden us to speak ill of.
ceonwulf
06-11-2008, 06:22 PM
"Sinclair is a gay man who was in Chicago ten years ago looking for fun in a limo. His driver introduced him to Illinois State Senator Barack Obama, although Sinclair didn't know the tall, black, crack-using homosexual to whom he gave a blowjob that night, and the next day in a hotel, was a member of the Legislature.
Obama was the former lover of a man who was murdered in Chicago in December 2007 named Donald Young - the former choir director at Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church. Young had phoned Sinclair personally a few times, shortly before his death; that is how Sinclair knows that Young was Obama's Chicago loverboy, and a very hurting young man."
Interesting article Kev. If true, we once again have the similiar strings that a politician can be moved by. HOW OFTEN DO WE SEE THIS !!!!!
Clinton was apparently into cocaine and of course his sexploits with Monica L only became public when his policy in the Middleeast was not to the liking of those God has forbidden us to speak ill of.
Larry Sinclairs press conference.......please watch
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lrf8DbrJH0
Tartarus
06-11-2008, 10:59 PM
Larry Sinclairs press conference.......please watch
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lrf8DbrJH0There are some points in that interview that don't stand up.
1...Why would a limo driver call a senator(Obama) for someone who was just visiting town for a bit of fun. Don't you think Obama would have stopped to think about his position as a senator?
2...You can't get an erection on crack, it kills your sex drive, which is why male crack addicts give blow jobs, or have sodomy performed on them to feed their habit.
Tartarus
06-11-2008, 11:03 PM
I've just watched part 2, and all I can say is, he reminds me of this chap
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cronin_(convict)
Simon Smith
06-11-2008, 11:35 PM
I've just watched all six parts on U tube. I tend to believe him. Sinclair would know because of his lifestyle presumably that crack cocaine addicts usually (not something I would know about) would have difficulty getting an erection. You could therefore argue that the inconsistency is consistent with the truth.
If true, what is his motivation ? Money probably. By his own admission he's in poor health. The USA is an unforgiving country for those who can't afford medical bills and we can't blame him for that.
We could certainly deal with corroboration from elsewhere. To have been in the BNP for a few years is to know that politics produces the worse kind of liars.
Here is Sinclair's blog:
http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/
Simon Smith
06-11-2008, 11:46 PM
From his blog profile:
"I have been attacked, falsely arrested and falsely charged all in an effort to hide the TRUTH about Barack Obama's crack cocaine use in 1999, his extra-marital affairs with me and other gay men, his long term intimate and sexual relationship with the MURDERED Donald Young, former choir director of Obama's church TUCC in Chicago. The Obama thugs have had my web sites shut down by startlogic one day before the DNC Convention, and they have admitted and bragged of being responsible for distributing my Social Security number to individuals who are using it illegally. On October 10 & 11, 2008 Obama supporters/surrogates did hack into two Hotmail accounts, one AOL account, this Blog and my original Youtube account and deleted every video, article, email, and file from all of them. Wake up America as these same Obots as recently as yesterday had the nerve to say that on November 5, 2008 I, the PUMA's, Clinton supporters and others who opposed Barack Obama will see what going against Obama will bring us. They have even stated that people opposing Obama will be arrested, sued, fired and beaten! And this was just posted October 20, 2008!"
With the exception of the alleged murder where else have we heard about homosexual liaisons, drugs, hacking and "bully boy" tactics ? The sage once said when you know one thing made out of clay, you know all things made out of clay...
Tartarus
06-11-2008, 11:50 PM
From his blog profile:
"I have been attacked, falsely arrested and falsely charged all in an effort to hide the TRUTH about Barack Obama's crack cocaine use in 1999, his extra-marital affairs with me and other gay men, his long term intimate and sexual relationship with the MURDERED Donald Young, former choir director of Obama's church TUCC in Chicago. The Obama thugs have had my web sites shut down by startlogic one day before the DNC Convention, and they have admitted and bragged of being responsible for distributing my Social Security number to individuals who are using it illegally. On October 10 & 11, 2008 Obama supporters/surrogates did hack into two Hotmail accounts, one AOL account, this Blog and my original Youtube account and deleted every video, article, email, and file from all of them. Wake up America as these same Obots as recently as yesterday had the nerve to say that on November 5, 2008 I, the PUMA's, Clinton supporters and others who opposed Barack Obama will see what going against Obama will bring us. They have even stated that people opposing Obama will be arrested, sued, fired and beaten! And this was just posted October 20, 2008!"
With the exception of the alleged murder where else have we heard about homosexual liaisons, drugs, hacking and "bully boy" tactics ? The sage once said when you know one thing made out of clay, you know all things made out of clay...One of the most powerful Jews in the world didn't want Obama to be elected. That man is, Rupert Murdoch. He goes from semi respect with the Times, to the gutter of the NOTW. Why hasn't Murdoch published?
Simon Smith
07-11-2008, 12:26 AM
One of the most powerful Jews in the world didn't want Obama to be elected. That man is, Rupert Murdoch. He goes from semi respect with the Times, to the gutter of the NOTW. Why hasn't Murdoch published?
Don't know. I'm not so sure that every Jew in the world sings from the same hymn sheet. Obama has just appointed an Ex Clinton dual Israeli citizen to his team hasn't he ?
Tartarus
07-11-2008, 01:07 AM
Don't know. I'm not so sure that every Jew in the world sings from the same hymn sheet. Obama has just appointed an Ex Clinton dual Israeli citizen to his team hasn't he ?Yes, but Obama wants American business to pull out from across the world and go home to give Americans jobs. His protectionist ideology sits uncomfortably with bankers and businessmen, and is why Murdoch dislikes him.
Simon Smith
07-11-2008, 12:39 PM
Yes, but Obama wants American business to pull out from across the world and go home to give Americans jobs. His protectionist ideology sits uncomfortably with bankers and businessmen, and is why Murdoch dislikes him.
Obama , like someone else we know - lets not mention his name - will have used ideology as a superficial differential between himself and the other party to get "power".
You mean good old Dolfy? :D
Tartarus
07-11-2008, 05:32 PM
Obama's win means future elections must be fought online
He may be older than most Facebook users, but Barack Obama understood the potential of social media to communicate and to raise funds - and left his 72-year-old opponent floundering
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/nov/07/barackobama-uselections2008
Tactics
07-11-2008, 10:57 PM
The net is powerful T. however the guardian newspaper certainly doesn't "guard" us.
Simon Smith
07-11-2008, 11:56 PM
He may be older than most Facebook users, but Barack Obama understood the potential of social media to communicate and to raise funds - and left his 72-year-old opponent floundering
Obama knows FA and as JiB has said, he's just a puppet.
Tartarus
08-11-2008, 10:20 AM
Obama knows FA and as JiB has said, he's just a puppet.I know that, SS, but the Guardian is clearly pointing out the way things are going to go.
They obviously want to draw youngsters into voting, and that means using celebrity, popular music, and commercial beauty.
Tartarus
08-11-2008, 10:21 AM
The net is powerful T. however the guardian newspaper certainly doesn't "guard" us.Yes, the net is powerful, but only if you know how to use it, and have the money.
man in room 17
08-11-2008, 06:47 PM
OBAMA .
A man for all seasons ,a rich man tugging on the heart strings of the poor blacks while being backed by Jews and rich blacks because they No who's side their bread is buttered, so he OBAMA will do what he is told to do.
so what will he do for the black people of the USA ,well not a lot because they the Zionists WILL NOT ALLOW HIM TO HELP YOU BUT HE WILL MAKE A FEW BLACKS RICH and the majority will remain poor and he will also allow you bro's to fight and die for ISRAEL fighting IRAN when the time is right.
but idiot blacks who voted for him have fallen for the old con trick of vote for me folks and i will give you what ever you want ,but all you will get is betrayal.
And as to the whites who voted for OBAMA well they are either liberals or whites who feel guilty about slavery that blacks have been oppressed and must be given a chance in this DEMOCRACY of ours ,do they not ,well don.t they.
Just like MANDELA he promised everything and gave very little to the blacks of South Africa but he did make a few blacks rich and the majority remain poor.
There is always a pecking order in any society and Jews are at the top whites are second Asians Chinese Japanese etc are third and Blacks will all ways be at the bottom ,but that is life folks like it or loath it ,it will not change in favor of the black man except for those selected few white and black who do the work of Zionists,and when you have lots of money you have power and money rules.
This event may see the blacks wanting to assume more status...
Obama victory opens door to new black identity
WASHINGTON – Shortly after leaving the voting booth, 70-year-old community activist Donald E. Robinson had a thought: "Why do I have to be listed as African-American? Why can't I just be American?"
The answer used to be simple: because a race-obsessed society made the decision for him. But after Barack Obama's mind-bending presidential victory, there are rumblings of change in the nature of black identity and the path to economic equality for black Americans.
Before Tuesday, black identity and community were largely rooted in the shared experience of the struggle — real or perceived — against a hostile white majority. Even as late as Election Day, many blacks still harbored deep doubts about whether whites would vote for Obama.
Obama's overwhelming triumph cast America in a different light. There was no sign of the "Bradley Effect," when whites mislead pollsters about their intent to vote for black candidates. Nationwide, Obama collected 44 percent of the white vote, more than John Kerry, Al Gore or even Bill Clinton, exit polls show.
more (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081108/ap_on_re_us/obama_black_future)
Tartarus
08-11-2008, 09:06 PM
This event may see the blacks wanting to assume more status...
Obama victory opens door to new black identity
WASHINGTON – Shortly after leaving the voting booth, 70-year-old community activist Donald E. Robinson had a thought: "Why do I have to be listed as African-American? Why can't I just be American?"
The answer used to be simple: because a race-obsessed society made the decision for him. But after Barack Obama's mind-bending presidential victory, there are rumblings of change in the nature of black identity and the path to economic equality for black Americans.
Before Tuesday, black identity and community were largely rooted in the shared experience of the struggle — real or perceived — against a hostile white majority. Even as late as Election Day, many blacks still harbored deep doubts about whether whites would vote for Obama.
Obama's overwhelming triumph cast America in a different light. There was no sign of the "Bradley Effect," when whites mislead pollsters about their intent to vote for black candidates. Nationwide, Obama collected 44 percent of the white vote, more than John Kerry, Al Gore or even Bill Clinton, exit polls show.
more (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081108/ap_on_re_us/obama_black_future)When you remove oppression, you remove power;)
ceonwulf
10-11-2008, 07:07 AM
Obama is not president yet.Much can happen to this Kenyan born person.
Tartarus
10-11-2008, 09:16 AM
Obama is not president yet.Much can happen to this Kenyan born person.
If Obama was assassinated, I think the whole of America would riot, apart from those who post on SF;)
If Obama was assassinated, I think the whole of America would riot, apart from those who post on SF;)
Actually, I'm surprised the blacks haven't rioted already - just to celebrate Obongo's* victory. Or maybe they have and we have not been told about it.
* deliberate spelling mistake :)
ceonwulf
10-11-2008, 10:14 AM
I do not think he will be assassinated because he is not qualified to become president
Tactics
10-11-2008, 03:36 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Hilary make a sudden re-appearance if the semi-jigaboos true birthplace is revealed mainstream.
ceonwulf
10-11-2008, 06:35 PM
I had a wager a few months back,that there would never be another US president and that martial law would be declared soon in the US.There is a span of two months and alot can happen.
This Obama business has taken peoples minds away from the coming financial crisis and the possibility of another false flag in the US which will be blamed on Iran.
Tactics
10-11-2008, 07:08 PM
You may be correct Kevin. This Obama business has been clearly manufactored. Hawaii not releasing his birth certificate, officials saying that Obama is soon to be tested. Stockpile of coffins (pics on google Earth), detention centres being built.
Tactics
10-11-2008, 07:15 PM
A false flag attack on a U.S. Port. Possibly nuked. Radioactive material is readily available, the Iranian ship (where is that now?), the missing nuke from Barksdale A.F.B.
Iran blamed, then attacked.
Tactics
10-11-2008, 07:20 PM
Iran closes the Straights of Hormuz (oil shortage worlwide), decimates the U.S. navy that is in range of its superior russian missiles launched either from its ships or mobile launchers.
Tactics
10-11-2008, 07:23 PM
Worst case scenarios granted, however not beyond the realms of possibility. Look at 911.
Tartarus
10-11-2008, 08:01 PM
The immigrant population of America is vast, and that immigration, is recent. The treatment of blacks in Americas history, and other western countries histories has been appalling, well documented, and a fact.
But, the power of that past oppression has driven civil rights groups, lobbyists, and a sundry of organisations to offer preferential treatment via positive discrimination soley based on guilt, and lets be honest, those people were guilty. What you have now is the lifting of that oppression, a black man reaching the highest office in the west, and with that the abolition of their oppression.
Black people can no longer complain that they are held back due to the colour of their skin, and this is very very significant, because a people without oppression, and a reason to fight, is a pliable lazy people who eventually go the way of the Dodo through their complacency and false sense of security.
Now, if you look at Ireland, their oppression and starvation lead to the IRA, in America it was the Black Panthers, and the Nation of Islam. Afganistan, the Taliban. India, Ghandi, Africa, Mandela etc
Britain, is only at the beginning of its new oppression. Its first oppression gave rise to the Labour Movement, and the unions. What will it give rise to now? I can assure you that something will happen.
ceonwulf
10-11-2008, 10:06 PM
A false flag attack on a U.S. Port. Possibly nuked. Radioactive material is readily available, the Iranian ship (where is that now?), the missing nuke from Barksdale A.F.B.
Iran blamed, then attacked.
It wasn't an Iranian ship and it didn't come from Iran.It was a jewish ship.I think somebody wanted to escalate things.
ceonwulf
10-11-2008, 10:10 PM
Iran closes the Straights of Hormuz (oil shortage worlwide), decimates the U.S. navy that is in range of its superior russian missiles launched either from its ships or mobile launchers.
People do not realize the consequences do they tactics.Once the oil stops how do we feed ourselves or clothe ourselves.
What shoes do we wear?it all comes from abroad.
Tactics
10-11-2008, 10:43 PM
It's not just oil, a lot of our gas comes from Russia. The Russians aren't averse to "turning the taps off" if it suits them politically. Our lack of self suffiency is one of our greatest threats. Yet our idiots still scream "muzzie muzzie muzzie" whilst donating to the shyster that urges them on. I am angst ridden with good reason.
Tactics
11-11-2008, 11:08 AM
Have a look at the "Project Camelot" website Kevin. I can't say that I agree with everything on there but there is factual research that is very interesting. They have a forum also.
Si. has touched upon some of the issues on his blog. Cheap energy, cancers etc.
Tactics
11-11-2008, 11:18 AM
People do not realize the consequences do they tactics.Once the oil stops how do we feed ourselves or clothe ourselves.
What shoes do we wear?it all comes from abroad.
Hemp would help to alleviate a lot of the above problems
Tartarus
11-11-2008, 11:29 AM
People do not realize the consequences do they tactics.Once the oil stops how do we feed ourselves or clothe ourselves.
What shoes do we wear?it all comes from abroad.
Clothing: Flax, wool?
Shoes: Leather?
Food: Grow your own?
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