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Tactics
05-11-2008, 09:01 PM
Should a new Griffin File be assembled and published?

Newer members should be made aware of all of his U-Turns, mistakes and his generally chameleonic nature.

baz
05-11-2008, 09:14 PM
While nobody should be below criticism, there is a danger that this thread would become a beacon, attracting the fluttering moth-like creatures to this forum to present their received wisdom.

Why bother?

If they can't work it out for themselves - f*** em.

Tactics
05-11-2008, 09:33 PM
Here is the original.

http://www.aryanunity.com/griffinfile.html

Tactics
05-11-2008, 09:42 PM
A lot of people don't know the score Baz. Our job is to educate and help where we can. We will no doubt get "wronguns" on this forum regardless of the posts contents.

prometheus unbound
05-11-2008, 10:25 PM
Aye, but would it be a labour of love or a labour of hate ?

If anyone wants to mount this work, then good luck to them.

Tactics
05-11-2008, 11:42 PM
Personaly I have no time for hate, it's an emotion that clouds ones judgement. Put the known facts and the circumstantial evidence together and let the viewers decide methinks. If done it must be clinically. All contributions that fit the above criteria would be greatly appreciated

Tartarus
06-11-2008, 08:42 AM
Personaly I have no time for hate, it's an emotion that clouds ones judgement. Put the known facts and the circumstantial evidence together and let the viewers decide methinks. If done it must be clinically. All contributions that fit the above criteria would be greatly appreciatedWhy don't you start a thread which gathers these facts, and use that as your Griffin file? Done in a timeline form would be good?

Tactics
06-11-2008, 06:47 PM
Unfortunately we don't have the coverage on here that is needed T. no disrespect intended. Sean.

Tartarus
06-11-2008, 07:05 PM
Unfortunately we don't have the coverage on here that is needed T. no disrespect intended. Sean.From little acorns, and all that;)

Tactics
06-11-2008, 07:37 PM
Aye maybe. I prefer the more full on approach, I am known, not a coward and value freedom of speech more than life. It's cost me enough as it is. There's no point in turning back now. F*ck em if they can't take a joke. That's my motto.;)

Tartarus
06-11-2008, 08:45 PM
Aye maybe. I prefer the more full on approach, I am known, not a coward and value freedom of speech more than life. It's cost me enough as it is. There's no point in turning back now. F*ck em if they can't take a joke. That's my motto.;)I have some documents for you if you want to chart Griffin right from the very beginning:)

old_mother_shipton
06-11-2008, 10:53 PM
I think sooner or later everyone is going to wake up and see the Emperor is wearing no clothes I just hope it is sooner than later,I myself like many others was taken in by this charlatan,but since I cleared the s**t from my eyes and now see clearly I realise a fool and his money are soon parted,it breaks my heart to see people still throwing hard earned money at this tin pot Emperor,to keep him in luxury.

Tactics
06-11-2008, 11:41 PM
Yes please, published or via p.m./email, it matters not to me, it will all, with permissions, be published anyway.

Tartarus
06-11-2008, 11:44 PM
I think sooner or later everyone is going to wake up and see the Emperor is wearing no clothes I just hope it is sooner than later,I myself like many others was taken in by this charlatan,but since I cleared the s**t from my eyes and now see clearly I realise a fool and his money are soon parted,it breaks my heart to see people still throwing hard earned money at this tin pot Emperor,to keep him in luxury.I fully agree with you, but what are the alternatives? I'm a bit of a pessimist now, and honestly believe we cannot beat the system, and if you chart history, no one ever has.

I think the future for nationalists, is to completely opt out of society.

Tartarus
06-11-2008, 11:46 PM
Yes please, published or via p.m./email, it matters not to me, it will all, with permissions, be published anyway.I'll upload them as soon as the forum can accept the file sizes

Tactics
07-11-2008, 12:16 AM
No system is unbeatable. I know how you feel, that's how they want us to feel. Keep the faith. The way is there and our thinkers are looking for a peaceful solution. Sad to say , in my opinion it will ultimately come down to force, they want to push us into this direction in order to stamp down on us hard. For the benefit of the forum my opinions are my own and in no way shape or form can or should be represented as those of this forum. Sean Hadley.

Simon Smith
07-11-2008, 12:18 AM
I fully agree with you, but what are the alternatives? I'm a bit of a pessimist now, and honestly believe we cannot beat the system, and if you chart history, no one ever has.

I think the future for nationalists, is to completely opt out of society.

We don't know to what extent the good peoples' actions of yesteryear have moderated the worse excesses of the "system". Things might have been even worse ! :)

I believe in truth and its power to mediate our own temporary earthly states with that which existed before and what comes after :)

There are stories of how wise men go and live on the top of mountains and only speak when questions are asked of them :), "opting out of society" as it were. There is something in this. The politician (actor) has an agenda and a pretty agenda that promises something for the interested individual. The teacher tells what is needed. A thankless task :)

Tartarus
07-11-2008, 12:25 AM
We don't know to what extent the good peoples' actions of yesteryear have moderated the worse excesses of the "system". Things might have been even worse ! :)

I believe in truth and its power to mediate our own temporary earthly states with that which existed before and what comes after

There are stories of how wise men go and live on the top of mountains and only speak when questions are asked of them :), "opting out of society" as it were. There is something in this. The politician (actor) has an agenda and a pretty agenda that promises something for the interested individual. The teacher tells what is needed. A thankless task :)
If this is going to be the future of politics, do we really stand a chance?
http://www.advertiser.ie/mayo/article/4226

I don't think so:( I see to many people each day change the colour of their furnishings and clothes to fit in with DICTATED fashion. How many here go out and buy the latest mobile phone when their older one was just as adequate etc

We exist amongst a nation of sheep, and the sheperds are clever, and devious bastards. People who desire honesty and truth in politics, or attempt to bring it to politics, are eaten alive.

Tartarus
07-11-2008, 12:28 AM
No system is unbeatable. I know how you feel, that's how they want us to feel. Keep the faith. The way is there and our thinkers are looking for a peaceful solution. Sad to say , in my opinion it will ultimately come down to force, they want to push us into this direction in order to stamp down on us hard. For the benefit of the forum my opinions are my own and in no way shape or form can or should be represented as those of this forum. Sean Hadley.If force was going to be used, it would have happened years ago. The British people don't feel oppressed in the same way the Irish, Indians, and Africans did. They feel no urgency to fight for freedom, and they don't even know they're prisoners.

Simon Smith
07-11-2008, 12:33 AM
If this is going to be the future of politics, do we really stand a chance?
http://www.advertiser.ie/mayo/article/4226

I don't think so:( I see to many people each day change the colour of their furnishings and clothes to fit in with DICTATED fashion. How many here go out and buy the latest mobile phone when their older one was just as adequate etc

We exist amongst a nation of sheep, and the shepherds are clever, and devious bastards. People who desire honesty and truth in politics, or attempt to bring it to politics, are eaten alive.

I would say "they" are the wolves, not the shepherds !

Tartarus
07-11-2008, 01:10 AM
I would say "they" are the wolves, not the shepherds !So would I, but they portray themselves as sheperds, and a man could waste his entire life following what turns out to be a wolf.

JiB
07-11-2008, 04:48 AM
I agree to an NG file. But let's try to keep it objective.

Tactics
07-11-2008, 10:50 PM
Music is the key, that's why I.S.D. Was taken out. Music is so powerful. They fear it.

BOB
08-11-2008, 05:58 PM
Whilst mr griffin might not be ideal,there is a danger that we may do new marxists work for them if those undecided become confused by a mass of negativity,this is something that has happened all too often in the past,petty internecine squabbles that have driven many groups apart,yes there are many things that are less than wholesome,but the general direction is where we all want to go,and as things are begining to roll we must not jepoardise the progress made so far,be aware of the seeds of suspicion but do not let them germinate.

Tartarus
09-11-2008, 10:32 AM
Music is the key, that's why I.S.D. Was taken out. Music is so powerful. They fear it.It's also why Searchlight use it. Youngsters go all weak at the knees when celebrities endorse anything:mad:

Tartarus
09-11-2008, 10:34 AM
Whilst mr griffin might not be ideal,there is a danger that we may do new marxists work for them if those undecided become confused by a mass of negativity,this is something that has happened all too often in the past,petty internecine squabbles that have driven many groups apart,yes there are many things that are less than wholesome,but the general direction is where we all want to go,and as things are begining to roll we must not jepoardise the progress made so far,be aware of the seeds of suspicion but do not let them germinate.I don't believe that striving for something better could ever be construed as negative. We can hardly criticise other parties when the same things are going on in the BNP.