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prometheus unbound
10-01-2010, 11:31 AM
War on hate
Home Office bans Islamic preacher's extremist groups

AN EXTREMIST Islamic group planning to march through a war heroes' town will be OUTLAWED this week.

Home Secretary Alan Johnson will use his powers to smash warped organisations run by hate-preacher Anjem Choudary.


He is expected to impose anti-terror laws as early as tomorrow to ban al-Muhajiroun and its latest offshoot Islam4UK.


The move will make it a criminal offence - punishable by up to TEN YEARS in jail - to become a member or to attend or address any meetings.


Fanatics

It also allows the authorities to tear down websites used by the groups to spread hate, promote violence and recruit new members. The action will also make it a criminal offence to raise funds.


Twisted Choudary, 42, has sparked outrage by threatening to march his followers through the Wiltshire town of Wootton Bassett, where crowds gather regularly to honour Britain's fallen squaddies as their coffins are returned home from Afghanistan in hearses.


He has called on his henchmen to carry up to 500 coffins in a sick plan to symbolise thousands of Muslims killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.


But his attempt to mobilise fanatics will be seriously hampered when Mr Johnson bans the two groups under the 2000 Terrorism Act.


Home Office lawyers have been secretly scouring the rule books to find ways of making the two groups illegal.


An Whitehall insider said last night: "The decision to proscribe the groups was made a few months ago - well before the march was even announced.


"We have been monitoring the output from the websites and comments made by senior members and have come to the conclusion that they are clearly acting outside the Act.


"A file is being prepared for the Home Secretary and all that remains now is for him to act." The action will be applauded by forces families and moderate Muslims demanding that extremists are denied the oxygen of publicity.


Al-Muhajiroun leaders have enraged Brits and Americans with their outrageous outpourings. They described the 9/11 bombers as "magnificent" and claim the flag of Islam would one day fly above 10 Downing Street.


Five young Muslims convicted in 2007 of the fertiliser bombing plot which could have killed hundreds of Brits all had links with al-Muhajiroun.


Reviled

And a man who bombed a cafe in Tel Aviv, Israel, killing three people in 2004 had also attended some of its circles.


The group was disbanded in 2004 by its reviled founder Omar Bakri Mohammad before he fled Britain to live in exile in Lebanon. But activists regrouped under its original name in the summer under Bakri disciple Choudary.


He has hailed the 9/11 bombers as martyrs, wants Sharia law imposed in the UK and gleefully admits: "I am the most hated man in Britain."


Islam4UK was set up as a "platform" for promoting the views of its extremist parent organisation, al-Muhajiroun. Crazed Choudary has demanded an Islamic revolution in Britain and wants Business Secretary Lord Mandelson stoned to death for being gay.


He has followed up his plans for a Wootton Bassett demo by organising a sick letter-writing campaign to families of fallen British heroes.


Lawyer Choudary and his supporters say they will write to the families of British troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan urging them to renounce their religions and convert to Islam. The letters urge them to embrace Islam to save themselves "from the hellfire".


About 20 of his supporters have already staged a protest during a welcome home parade for soldiers in Luton.


Parents have also complained that members were promoting extremism at a primary school.


Wiltshire politicians have urged him to abandon his latest protest, and a Facebook site dedicated to preventing the march has attracted more than 120,000 members.


Gordon Brown has branded the planned march "abhorrent and offensive" - and Mr Johnson said he would have no hesitation in banning it.


Fanatic's vile words of bile

HATE preacher Anjem Choudary has made a career out of insulting British troops and their families.


He has branded heroes returning from Afghanistan "brutal murderers" and "cowards".



VOICE OF UNREASON: Muslim demonstrators
Jobless Choudary, 42, lives in a £350,000 house in Leytonstone, east London, and claims State handouts of £25,740 a year - but spends most of his time spouting hatred.


He once claimed Muslims in Britain were "oppressed" and had the right to defend themselves "by whatever means".


He has tried to brainwash his followers by claiming it is an "obligation" upon Muslims everywhere to join a holy war against those who fight those who occupy Muslim land.


Last March, he posted a message on an extremist Islamic website calling a homecoming parade of the 2nd Battalion, The Royal Anglian Regiment, a "vile parade" of "brutal murderers".


The servicemen - who had lost 12 comrades in tours of Iraq and Afghanistan - were later confronted with placards branding them killers, rapists and terrorists as they marched through Luton, Beds.


Choudary has also urged Muslims to refuse to co-operate with police in tackling terrorism and called for the assassination of the Pope.


The British-born son of a Pakistani immigrant market trader, he was raised in a semi at Welling, Kent. After his A-levels, he began a medical degree but switched to law after failing his first-year exams.


He qualified as a solicitor and was chairman of the Society of Muslim Lawyers - but was removed from the Roll of Solicitors in 2002.


Choudary later embraced radical Islamism and co-founded al-Muhajiroun with the Islamist militant leader Omar Bakri Mohammad.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/668251/WAR-ON-HATE-Home-Secretary-Alan-Johnson-to-impose-anti-terror-laws-on-Anjem-Choudarys-organisations.html

tyrone
10-01-2010, 11:42 AM
Was looking on the NOTW comments section earlier and some daft lefty has already made a comment if they can ban islam4uk then they can ban the BNP.The woman who set up the facebook site about their march through wootten bassett has also received death threats.Left wing is a sick disease i hope one day they can find a cure for these terminally ill ilks.

Sharon
10-01-2010, 11:56 AM
I had no idea that Choudary was a lawyer. I find that very interesting indeed...

Sharon
10-01-2010, 12:05 PM
Was looking on the NOTW comments section earlier and some daft lefty has already made a comment if they can ban islam4uk then they can ban the BNP.The woman who set up the facebook site about their march through wootten bassett has also received death threats.Left wing is a sick disease i hope one day they can find a cure for these terminally ill ilks.

But its true. If they can ban people exercising freedom of speech, they can ban ANYONE.

Perhaps we should start considering taken this forum out of public view and making it private members only?

I always try my best to look at both sides when making a judgment, and I know for a fact that if my country was being continually invaded by foreigners, its people murdered, bombed, and maimed on a daily basis because they didn't like my culture and faith, I would do whatever it took to stop it. People should remember, that for every dead British soldier, there are a possible 1000 dead Afghani/Iraqi people.

Choudary's mistake, is not going home to fight for what he believes, and our mistake, is sending innocent people to their deaths for Zionist wankers and their business interests.

If you took religion out of the equation, what would there be to fight for?

The Russian oligarchs are already planning to set up the biggest telecoms networks in the world in Afghanistan and Iraq. How much money will that make for them? I don't need to tell you what religion they are...

tyrone
10-01-2010, 12:40 PM
Just had a call that facebook has gone mad with rumours that choudry and 4 coaches have left london bound for wootten bassett.

prometheus unbound
10-01-2010, 01:05 PM
Just had a call that facebook has gone mad with rumours that choudry and 4 coaches have left london bound for wootten bassett.

More info in here;

http://www.arrse.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/t=141764.html

JiB
10-01-2010, 02:51 PM
According to facebook the muzzies are in WB in the Sainsbury carpark.

maximilian
10-01-2010, 04:30 PM
Was looking on the NOTW comments section earlier and some daft lefty has already made a comment if they can ban islam4uk then they can ban the BNP.

But its true. If they can ban people exercising freedom of speech, they can ban ANYONE.


That is the exact first thought that entered my head on hearing this story.

Remember before Christmas all those expect neo nazi bombs type articles in the press, how everyone scratched their heads in puzzlement on what they were on about? Or the stringent lengths they went to in order to link that nutter who fired on the holocaust museum with the BNP?

Perhaps there was some method in their madness after all.

In a democracy everyone has a right to have a say as long as they do not incite violence, or break any laws no matter how unpalatable the things that they say.

We can't have double standards we must fight for Choudry and his cronies to have their say as much as we would fight to have ours.

If we don't the very process used to ban them will eventually be turned in our direction.

Remember how that saying goes.....first they came for the..........


max

Riaz Sobrany
10-01-2010, 05:01 PM
That is the exact first thought that entered my head on hearing this story.

Great minds think alike. I'm concluding that Islam4UK is a state manufactured excuse to take away more of our civil liberties. It could also be a state manufactured PR project to boost support for NuLab by making the shallow minded electorate think that they are heroes.

ceonwulf
10-01-2010, 05:10 PM
..................Ditto

dave
10-01-2010, 05:41 PM
Well said, Max.

*hat*

Sharon
10-01-2010, 06:11 PM
or break any laws
That's our biggest problem.

The really EVIL people keep changing the law to take away power from ordinary people while allowing filth more rights than their victims.

Leyther
10-01-2010, 06:24 PM
Ditto too.

Is Choudary state? I think the time has come where we should be speaking to a representative from the muzzies who isn't an agent-provocateur, with a view to avoiding any street-fights that would bring the resulting intended bad publicity.

maximilian
10-01-2010, 06:45 PM
That's our biggest problem.

The really EVIL people keep changing the law to take away power from ordinary people while allowing filth more rights than their victims.

Yes I agree, it prevents us formulating a strategy and keeps us always on the back foot.

Another problem we face is that the truth will not be accepted in defence, again yet another tactic to keep us from putting our case over as robustly as we may once have been able to.

But when all said and done a smart person gifted with good oratory skills should be able to hold, and then to eventually sway a crowd and still stay within our many repressive laws.

Unfortunately, and this is the biggest problem, there aren't too many of those on the ground.


max

prometheus unbound
10-01-2010, 07:29 PM
There's just been a short piece on Wootton Bassett over on SKY NEWS.

It showed a couple of hundred white youngsters ready to have a go if the Islam lot turned up, as rumours flew today about a possible Islam 4 UK turnout there.

Sharon
10-01-2010, 07:37 PM
There's just been a short piece on Wootton Bassett over on SKY NEWS.

It showed a couple of hundred white youngsters ready to have a go if the Islam lot turned up, as rumours flew today about a possible Islam 4 UK turnout there.They turned out pretty sharpish, eh;)