mein kampf

[Mrbaz]

Never read it before but just got a copy. anybody read it and what did you think?

[prometheus unbound]

Never read it before but just got a copy. anybody read it and what did you think?

Some interesting historical anecdotes, but overall, it's a boring read.

He should have kept to speaking !

Had to read it at Uni.

[Banjo_Billy]

I found the book to be fascinating. It is something that is, of course, slandered by the kikes here in the USA because they don't want anybody to read it.

In it, Hitler shows the greatness of his intellect, his great love of the German and Aryan people and the precision and excellence of his vision.

No one can possibly understand World War II without reading that book. No one can understand the joy and happiness that the German people found in Hitler without reading that book. It is the broadminded vision of a truly great man. It is an inspiration for all white Europeans, Americans, South Africans and Australians.

Hitler and Jesus told the truth about the Jews.

[Mrbaz]

Some interesting historical anecdotes, but overall, it's a boring read.

He should have kept to speaking !

Had to read it at Uni.

been told it is hard going in depth and badly translated?

[prometheus unbound]

been told it is hard going in depth and badly translated?

It's easier to get through than the crap from Marx, Lenin, or poseurs like Sartre.

[JiB]

been told it is hard going in depth and badly translated?

Apparently there are two English translations. Not sure which but one is said to be better.

[Cupid Stunt]

Some interesting historical anecdotes, but overall, it's a boring read.

He should have kept to speaking !

Had to read it at Uni.

Boring yes, but very true also. A better read is 'The Testament of Adolf Hitler'.

[Cupid Stunt]

been told it is hard going in depth and badly translated?

What translation do you have?

[Cupid Stunt]

Apparently there are two English translations. Not sure which but one is said to be better.

The Murphy one is truer to the original writing.

[Realist]

been told it is hard going in depth and badly translated?

George Lincoln Rockwell always recommended the Mannheim translation as it was more accurate that the Murphy translation from the 1930s. Only problem with the Mannheim one are the hostile footnotes and prefaces he wrote. This is the one you usually see in libraries in the UK.

[Mrbaz]

What translation do you have?

bought at waterstone first quater of book seems to be some student thesis on the actual book. not got to the writings of adolf yet

[Banjo_Billy]

Only problem with the Mannheim one are the hostile footnotes and prefaces he wrote. This is the one you usually see in libraries in the UK.

Good reasons to buy the Murphy translation.

[Sharon]

bought at waterstone first quater of book seems to be some student thesis on the actual book. not got to the writings of adolf yet

Why read the ramblings of a failed man?

Read this and take heed that all leaders dead or alive think you are SH*T. Hitler would have been delighted with the feral youths and hoodies who stab people to death on sink estates. For they are violent, brutal, and very dumb:)
Churchill was no different. The dumb were expendable for the sake of a failing empire.

Hitler-
"A violently active, intrepid, brutal youth - that is what I am after... I will have no intellectual training. Knowledge is ruin for my young men."

[Cupid Stunt]

Why read the ramblings of a failed man?

Read this and take heed that all leaders dead or alive think you are SH*T. Hitler would have been delighted with the feral youths and hoodies who stab people to death on sink estates. For they are violent, brutal, and very dumb:)
Churchill was no different. The dumb were expendable for the sake of a failing empire.

Hitler-
"A violently active, intrepid, brutal youth - that is what I am after... I will have no intellectual training. Knowledge is ruin for my young men."

Why don't you give it a rest for once. it weren't long ago you had your Leader, till you fell out. Better still, read the book, you might learn something.

[Deacon of the Deez]

It's a good read with many a relevant thing said. Having said that I've never read that all the way through. I've read the Bible all the way through and it's both a good book and a lot in our immoral and amoral society could learn from it. It is definitely no coincidence that the decline in our country's morals has gone hand in hand with the media helped decline in Christianity. I rarely watch TV now where there isn't some comedian or comedienne making fun of Christianity and it strikes me as a tad cowardly that they will never attack Judaism or Islam. Look at how homosexuals hate Christianity because of its being anti-homosexual and as a result, the homosexuals make all these sick Jesus-themed sex-toys.

Food for thought.

[Mrbaz]

The bible may be my next purchase. not to read i went to sunday school but good for reference. agree about the decline of morals being linked and christianity does seem to be only religion that you can joke about

[Sharon]

Why don't you give it a rest for once. it weren't long ago you had your Leader, till you fell out. Better still, read the book, you might learn something.
NO, I won't give it a rest. Anyone would think nationalists enjoyed having a death wish so they don't ever have to achieve anything:mad: You cannot take choice excerpts from a book and disregard the rest, and the fact is, Hitler like all leaders thought the working class and young were scum to be manipulated for their own ends.

Its right there in his own writing.

Hitler failed, and the worship of him is akin to voting Labour. Only people stuck in a rut without real hope ever do it, and those who make money out of him.

[Sharon]

christianity does seem to be only religion that you can joke aboutWhen the church itself doesn't stand up against it what do you expect? Christianity is weak, it sold the very things it claimed to believe in, and then it sold the buildings.

[Cupid Stunt]

NO, I won't give it a rest. Anyone would think nationalists enjoyed having a death wish so they don't ever have to achieve anything:mad: You cannot take choice excerpts from a book and disregard the rest, and the fact is, Hitler like all leaders thought the working class and young were scum to be manipulated for their own ends.

Its right there in his own writing.

Hitler failed, and the worship of him is akin to voting Labour. Only people stuck in a rut without real hope ever do it, and those who make money out of him.

Who said anything about worship. He came to power against all odds showing just what the triumph of ones will can achieve. He should act as an inspiration.

[Sharon]

He should act as an inspiration.No thanks, but don't let me stop you.

[Cupid Stunt]

No thanks, but don't let me stop you.

Have you managed to come to power and turn the Country around then? In fact please tell us what positive impact you have made to Nationalism (or effort in that direction anyway) since you left the BNP? You are of the opinion the electoral road is a waste of time - so why spend all your time criticising NG & the BNP????

[Sharon]

so why spend all your time criticising NG & the BNP????Because he's a c*nt:)

[Banjo_Billy]

NO, I won't give it a rest. Anyone would think nationalists enjoyed having a death wish so they don't ever have to achieve anything:mad: You cannot take choice excerpts from a book and disregard the rest, and the fact is, Hitler like all leaders thought the working class and young were scum to be manipulated for their own ends.

Its right there in his own writing.

Hitler failed, and the worship of him is akin to voting Labour. Only people stuck in a rut without real hope ever do it, and those who make money out of him.

I doubt if you have actually read the entire "Mein Kampf". Your little quote above is taken out of context from its intended meaning. Hitler loved Germany and the German people.

Hitler did not fail. His work and his ideas live on.

[Cupid Stunt]

I doubt if you have actually read the entire "Mein Kampf". Your little quote above is taken out of context from its intended meaning. Hitler loved Germany and the German people.

Hitler did not fail. His work and his ideas live on.

Yes exactly. Most of the people that quote AH always do out of context - "the big lie" being one of the prime examples.

[Henry]

Why read the ramblings of a failed man?

Hitler-
"A violently active, intrepid, brutal youth - that is what I am after... I will have no intellectual training. Knowledge is ruin for my young men."

Sharon, that is a quote from the anti-Hitler propagandist John Gunther who, in the 1930's, was employed along with many others, to prepare the minds of the American people for inevitable war with Germany.

Whether Hitler ever made that statement, I don't know, however, I do know it is not to be found in Mein Kampf.

[Deacon of the Deez]

The bible may be my next purchase. not to read i went to sunday school but good for reference. agree about the decline of morals being linked and christianity does seem to be only religion that you can joke about

I recommend the original King James Version if you can find it. I have one which has colour illustrations and which was a gift to someone in 1939.

[Sharon]

Sharon, that is a quote from the anti-Hitler propagandist John Gunther who, in the 1930's, was employed along with many others, to prepare the minds of the American people for inevitable war with Germany.

Whether Hitler ever made that statement, I don't know, however, I do know it is not to be found in Mein Kampf.Wether he did or didn't, I know the outcome isn't something I'd wish to follow.

[Henry]

Apparently there are two English translations. Not sure which but one is said to be better.

There are more than two translations.

The first English translation was an abridgment by Edgar Dugdale who along with his wife Blanche was an active Zionist. Blanche was also the niece of Arthur Balfour who gave his name to the infamous 'Balfour Declaration'.

See here for the Dugdale Mein Kampf: http://www.archive.org/details/MyStruggle

The James Murphy translation was commissioned by the Germans, but Murphy was told to leave Germany before his work was complete and he left much of his notes behind; and though his wife later tried to recover these notes his work cannot really be described as 'complete'. The Germans continued Murphy's work with a number of their own translators and finnished an edition which was 'found' in 2008.

James Murphy's translation can be read online here: http://www.victoryforever.com/meinkampf.pdf

In 1938, a committee from the New School for Social Research based in Greenwich village NY, produced a translation which was commissioned by Reynal & Hitchcock.

This translation can be read here: http://www.archive.org/details/meinkampf035176mbp

Stackpole and Sons released a complete translation by William Soskin which was withdrawn following a famous legal decision which secured copyright protection for the work of non-US citizens inside the United States. This edition sold more than 12,000 copies before it was removed from the shelves.

Another American court case saw Hitler successfully suing Alan Cranston for his 'unauthorised' translation. Cranston would later become a US Senator.
Michael Collins Piper mentions this incident in chapter XIV of his book 'Best Witness/The Mel Mermelstein Affair' and it can be read here: http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres3/pipermel.pdf

The translation by Ralph Manheim from 1943 was first published in England by Hurst & Blackett in 1969.

Zweites Buch

Adolf Hitler's unpublished sequel to Mein Kampf can be read here: http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/ZweitesBuch_wch7.pdf

[Henry]

I recommend the original King James Version if you can find it. I have one which has colour illustrations and which was a gift to someone in 1939.

I like to use this online resource for comparative versions: http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/

[Deacon of the Deez]

I like to use this online resource for comparative versions: http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/

Yeah I know of that site. Very good resource.

[Leyther]

I recommend the original King James Version if you can find it. I have one which has colour illustrations and which was a gift to someone in 1939.

The revised NEB has lost the power and direct clarity of the King James version.

[Tactics]

I've never read Mein Kampf.

[JiB]

In the introduction to his work AH himself says he is "not writing the book to explain things to non-followers, but it is solely intended for those adherents who belong to the ‘Movement’ with all their heart and whose intellect strives for a more heartfelt understanding." *hat*

My German copy (printed 1938 by the Zentralverlag der NSDAP by Frz. Eher Nacht in Munich) was brought back to Britain by a tank driver and given to me recently.

[Henry]

I've never read Mein Kampf.

Sean, a lot of people who say that it's boring are badly written often haven't actually read it, and certainly not in the German.

Those who have read it and found it 'boring' often do so because it has much mention of German history and of course the general British reader has little knowledge of German history, if any at all.

Mein Kampf is a treasure trove of foresight and wisdom and I'd recommend that any nationalist, who hasn't read at least one translation, should download the James Murphy pdf and give themselves a treat: http://www.victoryforever.com/meinkampf.pdf

Jews and their lackeys are afraid that you might discover such gems as the following quote, which is as relevant today as it was when it was written in the 1920's:

The Jew uses every possible means to undermine the racial foundations of a subjugated people. In his systematic efforts to ruin girls and women he strives to break down the last barriers of discrimination between him and other peoples. The Jews were responsible for bringing negroes into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of bastardizing the white race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate. For as long as a people remain racially pure and are conscious of the treasure of their blood, they can never be overcome by the Jew. Never in this world can the Jew become master of any people except a bastardized people.

That is why the Jew systematically endeavours to lower the racial quality of a people by permanently adulterating the blood of the individuals who make up that people.

In the field of politics he now begins to replace the idea of democracy by introducing the dictatorship of the proletariat. In the masses organized under the Marxist banners he has found a weapon which makes it possible for him to discard democracy, so as to subjugate and rule in a dictatorial fashion by the aid of brute force. He is systematically working in two ways to bring about this revolution. These ways are the economic and the political respectively.

Aided by international influences, he forms a ring of enemies around those nations which have proved themselves too sturdy for him in withstanding attacks from within. He would like to force them into war and then, if it should be necessary to his plans, he will unfurl the banners of revolt even while the troops are actually fighting at the front.

Economically he brings about the destruction of the State by a systematic method of sabotaging social enterprises until these become so costly that they are taken out of the hands of the State and then submitted to the control of Jewish finance. Politically he works to withdraw from the State its means of susbsistence, inasmuch as he undermines the foundations of national resistance and defence, destroys the confidence which the people have in their Government, reviles the past and its history and drags everything national down into the gutter.

Culturally his activity consists in bowdlerizing art, literature and the theatre, holding the expressions of national sentiment up to scorn, overturning all concepts of the sublime and beautiful, the worthy and the good, finally dragging the people to the level of his own low mentality.

Of religion he makes a mockery. Morality and decency are described as antiquated prejudices and thus a systematic attack is made to undermine those last foundations on which the national being must rest if the nation is to struggle for its existence in this world. (l) Now begins the great and final revolution. As soon as the Jew is in possession of political power he drops the last few veils which have hitherto helped to conceal his features. Out of the democratic Jew, the Jew of the People, arises the 'Jew of the Blood', the tyrant of the peoples. In the course of a few years he endeavours to exterminate all those who represent the national intelligence. And by thus depriving the peoples of their natural intellectual leaders he fits them for their fate as slaves under a lasting despotism.

Russia furnishes the most terrible example of such a slavery. In that country the Jew killed or starved thirty millions of the people, in a bout of savage fanaticism and partly by the employment of inhuman torture. And he did this so that a gang of Jewish literati and financial bandits should dominate over a great people.

But the final consequence is not merely that the people lose all their freedom under the domination of the Jews, but that in the end these parasites themselves disappear. The death of the victim is followed sooner or later by that of the vampire.

If we review all the causes which contributed to bring about the downfall of the German people we shall find that the most profound and decisive cause must be attributed to the lack of insight into the racial problem and especially in the failure to recognize the Jewish danger.

[Deacon of the Deez]

Sean, a lot of people who say that it's boring are badly written often haven't actually read it, and certainly not in the German.

Those who have read it and found it 'boring' often do so because it has much mention of German history and of course the general British reader has little knowledge of German history, if any at all.

Mein Kampf is a treasure trove of foresight and wisdom and I'd recommend that any nationalist, who hasn't read at least one translation, should download the James Murphy pdf and give themselves a treat: http://www.victoryforever.com/meinkampf.pdf

Jews and their lackeys are afraid that you might discover such gems as the following quote, which is as relevant today as it was when it was written in the 1920's:

Yes, Mein Kampf is full of excellent bits like that. Unfortunately, I've discovered that it's virtually impossible to use quotes like these from Mein Kampf to convert people to our cause because Jews have done such a good job of denigrating Hitler and making him out to be Satan's human form that any quote from Hitler or Mein Kampf is regarded as verse from Satan's Bible.

[a man from brum]

Never read it before but just got a copy. anybody read it and what did you think?


I am at a loss as to what you want to know about such a discredited and murderous foreign ideology. There are many books you can read including those sold by Excalibur to which you could add GK Chesterton and Hilaire Belloc which would give you a firm and rounded knowledge of British history and British nationalism and economics. British Nationalists have to stop living in a bubble and recognise its the 21st Century. Much social change has taken place. We have to move with this and not at the first sign of a setback retreat into a make-believe fantasy world of marching armies and floodlit rallies.

[Leyther]

I am at a loss as to what you want to know about such a discredited and murderous foreign ideology. There are many books you can read including those sold by Excalibur to which you could add GK Chesterton and Hilaire Belloc which would give you a firm and rounded knowledge of British history and British nationalism and economics. British Nationalists have to stop living in a bubble and recognise its the 21st Century. Much social change has taken place. We have to move with this and not at the first sign of a setback retreat into a make-believe fantasy world of marching armies and floodlit rallies.

Nationalism isn't a foreign ideology.

You mean AK Chesterton, GK's cousin. AK was really an imperialist although he did recognise the influence of Zionism.

How many people condemning Mein Kampf have actually read it?

[Tactics]

Sean, a lot of people who say that it's boring are badly written often haven't actually read it, and certainly not in the German.

Those who have read it and found it 'boring' often do so because it has much mention of German history and of course the general British reader has little knowledge of German history, if any at all.

Mein Kampf is a treasure trove of foresight and wisdom and I'd recommend that any nationalist, who hasn't read at least one translation, should download the James Murphy pdf and give themselves a treat: http://www.victoryforever.com/meinkampf.pdf

Jews and their lackeys are afraid that you might discover such gems as the following quote, which is as relevant today as it was when it was written in the 1920's:

I know how the world works from independent research, I haven't commented on Mein Kampf simply because I haven't read it.

[Henry]

Yes, Mein Kampf is full of excellent bits like that. Unfortunately, I've discovered that it's virtually impossible to use quotes like these from Mein Kampf to convert people to our cause because Jews have done such a good job of denigrating Hitler and making him out to be Satan's human form that any quote from Hitler or Mein Kampf is regarded as verse from Satan's Bible.

Deacon, I'm afraid there is always a point at which any person who thinks he or she has been converted to 'our cause', must accept the correctness of Hitler's observation(s) or accept this bitter truth: That they are not educated nationalists, acutely aware of the murderous assault against our people, but are instead, dangerous waverers whose nationalistic tendencies result not from any empirical understanding of our enemy and his tactics, but from a queer like neurosis, which will in practice only hasten our demise, should we ever allow them to dominate or even influence our thinking as racial nationalists.

Even when served up by Adolf Hitler, truth is like medicine: And though some people might find it hard to swallow, there can be no recovery without it.

[Tactics]

Deacon, I'm afraid there is always a point at which any person who thinks he or she has been converted to 'our cause', must accept the correctness of Hitler's observation(s) or accept this bitter truth: That they are not educated nationalists, acutely aware of the murderous assault against our people, but are instead, dangerous waverers whose nationalistic tendencies result not from any empirical understanding of our enemy and his tactics, but from a queer like neurosis, which will in practice only hasten our demise, should we ever allow them to dominate or even influence our thinking as racial nationalists.

Even when served up by Adolf Hitler, truth is like medicine: And though some people might find it hard to swallow, there can be no recovery without it.


Usury has to be removed from our midst, in order for us to get anywhere, that much is clear and of course the M.S.M. must be changed to a media that portays the truth, as always education is the key which is why homeschooling and the net are currently under attack from the establishment.

[Deacon of the Deez]

Deacon, I'm afraid there is always a point at which any person who thinks he or she has been converted to 'our cause', must accept the correctness of Hitler's observation(s) or accept this bitter truth: That they are not educated nationalists, acutely aware of the murderous assault against our people, but are instead, dangerous waverers whose nationalistic tendencies result not from any empirical understanding of our enemy and his tactics, but from a queer like neurosis, which will in practice only hasten our demise, should we ever allow them to dominate or even influence our thinking as racial nationalists.

Even when served up by Adolf Hitler, truth is like medicine: And though some people might find it hard to swallow, there can be no recovery without it.

I should've mentioned that by "convert people" I meant people with no nationalistic tendencies. It's easier to use Hitler's quotes on the people already softened by the likes of Duke etc but on the general public quoting Hitler to them will be seen as quoting from Satan's bible. Truth is truth no matter who says it, is how I see it; unfortunately, most people don't.

[Sharon]

I am at a loss as to what you want to know about such a discredited and murderous foreign ideology. There are many books you can read including those sold by Excalibur to which you could add GK Chesterton and Hilaire Belloc which would give you a firm and rounded knowledge of British history and British nationalism and economics. British Nationalists have to stop living in a bubble and recognise its the 21st Century. Much social change has taken place. We have to move with this and not at the first sign of a setback retreat into a make-believe fantasy world of marching armies and floodlit rallies.You only have to look at the world to know he failed. Winners destroy their enemies, he made his stronger. Not wanting to follow failure doesn't mean you ain't a nationalist. Let the others follow failure if they wish to. Be true to yourself, stuff anyone else;)

[Sharon]

I should've mentioned that by "convert people" I meant people with no nationalistic tendencies. It's easier to use Hitler's quotes on the people already softened by the likes of Duke etc but on the general public quoting Hitler to them will be seen as quoting from Satan's bible. Truth is truth no matter who says it, is how I see it; unfortunately, most people don't.
Does a Christian take a bible into a bank to cash a cheque? People confuse personal ideas with politics. Politics is what the public wants, not what the individual wants, and that's why the hardcore have always failed. They take their bible everywhere, but no one wants to listen.

[Deacon of the Deez]

Does a Christian take a bible into a bank to cash a cheque? People confuse personal ideas with politics. Politics is what the public wants, not what the individual wants, and that's why the hardcore have always failed. They take their bible everywhere, but no one wants to listen.

Which is why voting will never bring success. One has to water down one's beliefs so much for a few votes that at the end it wasn't really worth trying.

[Sharon]

Which is why voting will never bring success. One has to water down one's beliefs so much for a few votes that at the end it wasn't really worth trying.It goes deeper than that. The people want what they want, they don't want to be converted to anything. All politicians get chewed up in the end, no matter what their intentions. Look at Blair with his high ideals of anti-war etc as a young man. I wonder if he awakes screaming when he thinks of the bodies in Iraq and Afghanistan, on both sides....

[Deacon of the Deez]

It goes deeper than that. The people want what they want, they don't want to be converted to anything. All politicians get chewed up in the end, no matter what their intentions. Look at Blair with his high ideals of anti-war etc as a young man. I wonder if he awakes screaming when he thinks of the bodies in Iraq and Afghanistan, on both sides....

I doubt it. What keeps him awake is counting his shekels and pieces of silver. Blair has to be the most detestable man who ever lived.

[Sharon]

I doubt it. What keeps him awake is counting his shekels and pieces of silver. Blair has to be the most detestable man who ever lived.I'm not so sure. He looks quite aged and pale recently, and then there's his Blair Faith Foundation and he just converted to Catholicism. May be Catholics are more forgiving? I wouldn't want his conscience for any amount of money.

[Henry]

Look at Blair with his high ideals of anti-war etc as a young man. I wonder if he awakes screaming when he thinks of the bodies in Iraq and Afghanistan, on both sides....

Tony Blair is a classic psychopath, that's why he was chosen. He never had any 'high ideals' only the lies that people are so desperate to hear - ad infinitum.

[a man from brum]

Ref to my post number 36
Just a bit of info here which might be helpful:
Gilbert Keith Chesterton (1874-1936) and Hilaire Belloc (1870- 1953) were both prolific writers who were part of the 19thCentury Distributist Movement. This was an economic theory which promoted that private property should become shared throughout society and not be monopolised by corporate or government interests. Both Chesterton and Belloc were both strong critics of both capitalism and socialism. British Nationalists sometimes call this theory the Third Way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

[Henry]

Tony Blair became a Roman Catholic because he's a screaming drama queen who murdered a million people and then developed an anxiety disorder that drove him to hedge his bets with an occasional visit to the confessional. And only there might he hear the soothing words he sought:

'Dominus noster Jesus Christus te absolvat; et ego auctoritate ipsius te absolvo ab omni vinculo excommunicationis (sespensionis) et interdicti in quantum possum et tu indiges. [making the Sign of the Cross:] Deinde, ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.'

In contrast; all that Blair ever got from his local vicarage, was a nice cup of tea and flatulence.

[Deacon of the Deez]

Tony Blair became a Roman Catholic because he's a screaming drama queen who murdered a million people and then developed an anxiety disorder that drove him to hedge his bets with an occasional visit to the confessional. And only there might he hear the soothing words he sought:

'Dominus noster Jesus Christus te absolvat; et ego auctoritate ipsius te absolvo ab omni vinculo excommunicationis (sespensionis) et interdicti in quantum possum et tu indiges. [making the Sign of the Cross:] Deinde, ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.'

In contrast; all that Blair ever got from his local vicarage, was a nice cup of tea and flatulence.

Very likely. Forgiveness in Roman Catholic churches is more vocal and easier to get. Sometimes I wonder just how a man like Blair can get forgiveness. He makes no attempt to put right the things he's done wrong and just seems to get richer.

[JiB]

Ref to my post number 36
Just a bit of info here which might be helpful:
Gilbert Keith Chesterton (1874-1936) and Hilaire Belloc (1870- 1953) were both prolific writers who were part of the 19thCentury Distributist Movement. This was an economic theory which promoted that private property should become shared throughout society and not be monopolised by corporate or government interests. Both Chesterton and Belloc were both strong critics of both capitalism and socialism. British Nationalists sometimes call this theory the Third Way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

Ideas in this direction were also to be found in German speaking countries including Germany and Austria. One book written on the subject is „Der wahre Staat” in 1937 by Othmar Spann, an Austrian I believe. In the book he discussed a „Ständestaat" and it most probably could be translated as 'Corperate State' or 'Estatist based system of government'. Ideas from that period are notoriously difficult to translate because it refers to systems that were evolving in Central Europe and never existed in Britain. Germany then had a government largely based on a well-organised civil service, whereas Britain already had talk-shop (parliamentary) democracy.
One thing Spann always made clear is that democracy is only possible among equals, i.e. people who have the same goals, culture etc. etc.

[Sharon]

Tony Blair became a Roman Catholic because he's a screaming drama queen who murdered a million people and then developed an anxiety disorder that drove him to hedge his bets with an occasional visit to the confessional. And only there might he hear the soothing words he sought:

'Dominus noster Jesus Christus te absolvat; et ego auctoritate ipsius te absolvo ab omni vinculo excommunicationis (sespensionis) et interdicti in quantum possum et tu indiges. [making the Sign of the Cross:] Deinde, ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.'

In contrast; all that Blair ever got from his local vicarage, was a nice cup of tea and flatulence.:D Succinct :D

[Henry]

:D Succinct :D

Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini ;)

[Banjo_Billy]

I recommend the original King James Version if you can find it. I have one which has colour illustrations and which was a gift to someone in 1939.

The Jerusalem Bible is a better choice. The King James contains a lot of errors in translation.

[mad dog or wolf]

Sharon, that is a quote from the anti-Hitler propagandist John Gunther who, in the 1930's, was employed along with many others, to prepare the minds of the American people for inevitable war with Germany.

Whether Hitler ever made that statement, I don't know, however, I do know it is not to be found in Mein Kampf.

Hitler-
"A violently active, intrepid, brutal youth - that is what I am after... I will have no intellectual training. Knowledge is ruin for my young men."


I have never seen this [/QUOTE] in print either?

The writings of AH are not the writing of a failed man NS is a ideology that had 6 years before WW2 started,his teaching of NS wer not destroyed in the end result of WW2 and wer never destroyed but live on in us all racial nationalists.
The love of his people and the love he had for his country is far greater than any post war politician even up to this day.

An example of the hate our politicians have for us all is the ideal they have for us in the multiracial nightmare we all have to live in ,but THEY do not.

Blair a one time politician is a proven liar ,a man with BLOOD on his hands that ordered a WAR against a sovereign state who did not have either the WMD or the delivery system that he said they had ,how does he sleep at night.

He along with Bush are war criminals who need but will not be put on trial for treason ,the betrayal of his armed forces and the deaths that have resulted from the WAR for the NWO,this the NWO, is another dream for the dreamers just like Communism and that dream is now dead.

Communism is a failure it is always for the people but not for the political elite who espouse it and communism imploded after 50 years into the heap that it deserves and is now dead,but it is responsible for the murder of at least 100 million people in the world .
Capitalism is now in its death throes and is only propped up by the taxpayer who is constantly fleeced by bankers,how long before this system of corruption will last I wonder.and how many Servicemen and innocent civilians will die for it.

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Yes exactly. Most of the people that quote AH always do out of context - "the big lie" being one of the prime examples.

The Mannheim translation I have never had a copy ,so I cannot comment.

The Murphy one is truer to the original writing so I am informed.

[Unregistered]

The Jerusalem Bible is a better choice. The King James contains a lot of errors in translation.

Have never read it. Please can someone tell me what Hitler had to say in regard to the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion?

Where can I get an unabridged version of Mein Kampf?

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Have never read it. Please can someone tell me what Hitler had to say in regard to the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion?

Where can I get an unabridged version of Mein Kampf?

Hitler did believe them genuine, it was all the wails from certain quarters about the Protocols being a hoax that convinced him.